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  In case you missed it, British elder swindles $300K for "evil" college fund

  by Its so simple in

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  this was in response to the "warm british" mentioned in another post.. warm brits?

  isn't that an oxy moron?.

  i know a certain 'someone' who went into business with a brit ( he lived in another country ) and the brit was responsible for exporting.

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  This was in response to the "warm British" mentioned in another post.

  Warm Brits? Isn't that an oxy moron?

  I know a certain 'someone' who went into business with a brit ( he lived in another country ) and the brit was responsible for exporting. He was an elder etc etc etc, long story short he walked away with $300K US of company funds. He up and moved his family, changed his number etc. Last I heard was from his son who was studying at the Sorbone. ( <spelling? ) Funny but this certain someone remembered a conversation he had with him where he was worrying about how he was going to send this son to school. Looks like he found a way. His son never knew what his dad did and sent "someone" an email. "Someone" then asked for his dad's phone number. He of course gave it right out. So "Someone" called him and just asked if he is worried everytime the phone rings. "Someone" then said said, "you should be". At this point he hung up on "someone". He then had his number changed again.

  You think he just figured that the scripture, "he who doesn't provide an ivy leauge education for his own family is worse than a man without faith" worked for him?

  Oye vey, he was warm alright.

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  South East England - love of the greater number cooling off

  by truthseeker in

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  hi everyone, in the congregation i grew up in, it was very cold and unloving.

  circuit overseers would come and go, they would give counsel and nothing changed.

  at one time even the do came at the same time as the co and gave counsel to 'widen out'.

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  Warm Brits? Isn't that an oxy moron?

  I know a certain 'someone' who went into business with a brit ( he lived in another country ) and the brit was responsible for exporting. He was an elder etc etc etc, long story short he walked away with $300K US of company funds. He up and moved his family, changed his number etc. Last I heard was from his son who was studying at the Sorbone. ( <spelling? ) Funny but this certain someone remembered a conversation he had with him where he was worrying about how he was going to send this son to school. Looks like he found a way. His son never knew what his dad did and sent "someone" an email. "Someone" then asked for his dad's phone number. He of course gave it right out. So "Someone" called him and just asked if he is worried everytime the phone rings. "Someone" then said said, "you should be". At this point he hung up on "someone". He then had his number changed again.

  You think he just figured that the scripture, "he who doesn't provide an ivy leauge education for his own family is worse than a man without faith" worked for him?

  Oye vey, he was warm alright.

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  Disctrict Convention, still fading? Which one will you be at? Mulan?...

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  not being a jw anymore but still fading because of a long history of involvement and friends, i will be attending parts of the ogden utah district convention.

  no borg!

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  Mine is getting a room and working out in the morning while everyone else runs out the door to the assembly. Get there at 11, find people at lunch and say "where were you sitting?" Then leave after the first ( yawn ) talk. Plus, don't forget to take turns, wife goes one day, I go the next. Kids play at the pool.
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  Disctrict Convention, still fading? Which one will you be at? Mulan?...

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  not being a jw anymore but still fading because of a long history of involvement and friends, i will be attending parts of the ogden utah district convention.

  no borg!

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  Oh yeah, one other thing, should we all wear some special color? Yellow ties? We could all have our wives wear some skirt with a slit up to their belly button. Of course we really wouldn't stand out then. How about the latest syle from the Ordnung?
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  Disctrict Convention, still fading? Which one will you be at? Mulan?...

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  not being a jw anymore but still fading because of a long history of involvement and friends, i will be attending parts of the ogden utah district convention.

  no borg!

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  Hi everyone!

  Not being a JW anymore but still fading because of a long history of involvement and friends, I will be attending parts of the Ogden Utah District Convention. Will YOU be there? I have been trying to talk my wife into an apostifest and she is warming up to the idea. Anyway, if not Utah, where will you be going? How successful has your fade been? Besides the Watchtower review and that long ass prayer by some geiser from back East, what is your favorite part? The hotel rate?

  NO Borg!
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  What if the Watchtower Changed .......

  by IslandWoman in

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  if the watchtower changed it's blood doctrine to one where publishers could do what their conscience dictated without fear of reprisals from the brothers, if they also quit using the two witness rule and said all criminal accusations must be reported to the police, if they stopped shunning, if they said all df and da'd could associate with their friends and family, if they apologized to ray franz and all others who were hurt by their policies; would exjws respect their dogma and refrain from putting down their religious beliefs to their faces?.

  this is an important question, more important than you know.

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  They will never apologize.

  The words, it was ALWAYS up to the individual conscience to decide will get them off the hook.
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  All that pain, loneliness, lack of real love, ----- stare and wonder, WHAT?

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  almost 90% of the jw's in the ranks right now, knew/hoped the 1914 things was right.

  there is almost a collective 'sigh' that you can hear among the followers.

  child molestation, selling buildings, commercials on tv, and the relentless march of internet information is going to erode the imperseptable increase to a decrease.

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  Almost 90% of the JW's in the ranks right now, knew/hoped the 1914 things was right. There is almost a collective 'sigh' that you can hear among the followers. Child molestation, selling buildings, commercials on TV, and the relentless march of internet information is going to erode the imperseptable increase to a decrease.

  The real issue is the state of these people. No doubt all here are mostly ex JW's and have been burned in some way or another. But think unselfishly for a moment, there are sooo many people that are going to have feelings of hurt and betrayal. So many promises made, and then just cast aside. It seems to me that the B'org' is in a massive reform process. It is making the change from an organization with a face ( Franz, Barr, who's the guy who just died? ) to an unthinking and NO DOUBT soon to be very ineffective organization that will be brought about by legal and financial pressures. They there will be nothing. It will become like a favorite sports team. Something that can be cast aside at the most simplest dissappointment, ie trading your favorite player. Then all that passion that you may have had ( albeit during gametime only ) can just be gone. Have you ever noticed that Kingdom Halls have no sentimental value? At the height of your fanaticism for the B'org', if the hall you attended burned down, would you have even had a pang of sadness? NO, build another one.

  I look at many people that I still like that are 'in'. Their eyes are shut tight and their words are pre-programmed. It is so sad. This is a lesson to everyone to think about the consequenses of anything you undertake. Do you think CT Russ had any idea of the hurt and oppression that would come from his no doubt well intentioned efforts?

  I want to help them, but they are not ready. The saddest part is, they may never be ready. If you are out, enjoy your freedom. Let go of your bitterness. Think of whats worse being in and being misled by blind guides, or out and knowing you were once blind? I don't know, all I know is I'm sad for the prisoners of the WT.

  Maybe it's not so simple
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  To its so simple......

  by avishai in

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  this is from your post about your story, how you got here.

  i must say though, i have no regrets.

  i listened when they said, can you do more?

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  Acting is all part of it. The more theatrical you can be, the better. Especially in a comittee meeting.
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  To its so simple......

  by avishai in

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  this is from your post about your story, how you got here.

  i must say though, i have no regrets.

  i listened when they said, can you do more?

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  Avashi,

  P.S.

  My comments about the "Angries" were specifically pointed at one person,"SixOfNines", who referred to me as "you newbies". His response to me, and the subsequent comments of others toward him, call attention to his comments being an attack. I felt it was fair to assume that he was angry given his attack on me. My comments were simply what they were titled, "how I got here & the beginning of the end". I did this as a courtesy to whomever might appreciate it.

  Nevertheless, my apology for any offense to you still stands. I'm very sorry for the injustice that was done to your brother and the further injustice done by the org.
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  To its so simple......

  by avishai in

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  this is from your post about your story, how you got here.

  i must say though, i have no regrets.

  i listened when they said, can you do more?

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  Avi,

  I was not aware of most of what I allude to when it was happening. I assure you I'm not smug, and I know there is a lot of damage that has been done. My comments about being as 'deficient as others' relates to people who never ran the entire route the WTBS laid out for them. So in the back of their minds ( because of the essential elements of mind control ) they wonder if it's because they failed to peform. One who never 'does much' is constantly put down in talks, comments, magazine articles etc. Then as you start to fade, or whatever approach you take to your departure, you are on the defensive because WHOEVER is talking to you is going to be in a superior position. They are more rightous etc. All of this is arbitrary but it's where the mind control does it's work. If one had run to a point where you knew no one in the org anywhere had much on you, then all bets are off. It changes the dynamics completely. This is not said with any arrogance but rather an unfeeling evaluation of the circumstances of individuals and the effects of mind control. If it helps any my wife is always saying to me, "not everyone can make completly emotionless desicions like you." What ends up happening is when you state things about yourself such as "I was a good speaker etc" it comes accross ( especially in chat ) as arrogant. However, these were the essential items related to what I was discussing. I could go on and relate how I'm also very impetuous. Often insensitive and create hurt feelings ( Hey isnt' that what I did here? ) Those weaknesses I have I'm just as aware of as my strenghts and admit them freely. However they were not relevant to what I was talking about so I didn't include them.

  I would never want to cause offense or hurt feelings. I apologize with all sincerity. My screen name simply implies that the simplicity of the dynamics. Emotions tend to be more complicated to deal with because they often don't adhere to the facts.

  If I have hurt anyone else by my unfeeling approach please be sure and let me know.

  Sincerely,

  ISS